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Honda CR-V Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI) system ➜ DTC P0172: Fuel System Too Rich

REL TP SENSOR  
APP SENSOR  
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6. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS while driving.  
Threshold  
Values  
Current conditions  
Unit Values Unit  
Signal  
AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) More than 1.33  
Do the current condition(s) match the threshold under the on-board snapshot conditions?  
YES : AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is too high. Go to step 3.  
NO : AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is OK. Troubleshooting is complete.  
DTC P0172: FUEL SYSTEM TOO RICH  
Fig. 83: DTC Troubleshooting Flow Chart (P0172)  
Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.  
NOTE:  
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Before you troubleshoot, record all freeze data and any on-board  
snapshot, and review the general troubleshooting information See HOW  
TO TROUBLESHOOT THE A/T SYSTEM or HOW TO TROUBLESHOOT THE  
FUEL AND EMISSIONS SYSTEMS .  
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Do not clear the DTC or reset the PCM before beginning this  
troubleshooting procedure until instructed to clear it. Clearing the DTC or  
resetting the PCM can delete valuable diagnostic information, even if the  
on-board snapshot and the freeze data is saved.  
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Inspect for aftermarket fuel system and engine components before  
beginning troubleshooting.  
If any of the DTCs listed below are stored at the same time as P0172,  
troubleshoot those DTCs first, then recheck for P0172.  
P0101, P0102, P0103: MAF sensor  
P0106, P0107, P0108: MAP sensor  
P0133, P1172, P1157, P2238, P2252, P2A00: A/F sensor (Sensor 1)  
P0134, P0135: A/F sensor (Sensor 1) heater  
P0137, P0138, P0139, P2270: Secondary HO2S (Sensor 2)  
P0141: Secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) heater  
P0443, P0496: EVAP canister purge valve  
P2646, P2647, P2648, P2649: VTEC system  
DTC Description  
Confirmed DTC  
Pending DTC Freeze Frame  
P0172 FUEL SYSTEM TOO RICH B1  
1. Problem verification-Idle:  
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1. Start the engine, and let it idle without load (in P or N).  
2. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS.  
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Threshold  
Values  
Current conditions  
Unit Values Unit  
Signal  
AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.79  
Do the current condition(s) match the threshold?  
YES : The AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is too low at idle. Go to step 3.  
NO : The AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is OK at idle. Go to step 2.  
2. Problem verification-On-board Snapshot:  
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1. Review the on-board snapshot and record the value of the parameters below when AF FB (ST  
FUEL TRIM) was at its lowest point.  
ENGINE SPEED  
VEHICLE SPEED  
REL TP SENSOR  
APP SENSOR  
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2. Drive the vehicle according to the conditions determined above.  
Current conditions  
Signal  
Values  
Unit  
ENGINE SPEED  
VEHICLE SPEED  
REL TP SENSOR  
APP SENSOR  
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3. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS while driving.  
Threshold  
Values  
Current conditions  
Unit Values Unit  
Signal  
AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.79  
Do the current condition(s) match the threshold under the on-board snapshot conditions?  
YES : AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is too low under the conditions above. Go to step 3.  
NO : AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is OK under the same conditions as the on-board snapshot. The system is  
normal at this time.  
3. Check for MAF Sensor Debris:  
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1. REMOVE THE MAF SENSOR/IAT SENSOR .  
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2. Check for lint, bugs, and other foreign objects in the sensor.  
Is there debris in the MAF sensor?  
YES : Remove the debris from the MAF sensor and then use a vacuum cleaner to remove any debris from  
the air cleaner housing, then do the repair verification .  
NO : Reinstall the MAF sensor/IAT sensor. Go to step 4.  
4. Check Fuel Pressure:  
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1. Check the fuel pressure under the conditions when AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is 0.79 or less.  
Current conditions  
Signal  
Values  
Unit  
AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM)  
2
Is the fuel pressure between 330-380 kPa (3.4-3.9 kgf/cm , 48-55 psi)?  
YES : The fuel pressure is OK. Go to step 5.  
NO : Replace the fuel tank unit See FUEL TANK UNIT REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION or FUEL  
TANK UNIT DISASSEMBLY AND REASSEMBLY , then do the repair verification .  
5. Check MAF Sensor Reading:  
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1. Start the engine and hold the engine speed at 3, 000 rpm until the radiator fan comes on.  
2. Make sure the following conditions are met:  
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ECT Sensor 1 above 158 Β°F (70 Β°C)  
Transmission in P or N  
All engine and electrical loads turned off  
Current conditions  
Signal  
Values  
Unit  
ECT SENSOR 1  
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3. Monitor the ENGINE SPEED in the DATA LIST with the HDS, then hold the engine speed at 2,  
500 rpm with the accelerator pedal held steady.  
Current conditions  
Signal  
Values  
Unit  
ENGINE SPEED  
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4. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS at 2, 500 rpm.  
Threshold Current conditions  
Signal  
Values Unit Values  
Unit  
MAF SENSOR 7.0-8.6 g/s  
Do the current condition(s) match the threshold?  
YES : The MAF sensor is OK. Go to step 6.  
NO : The MAF sensor is reading incorrectly. Inspect for a cracked, damaged, or incorrectly installed air  
cleaner assembly. If OK, REPLACE THE MAF SENSOR/IAT SENSOR , then do the repair  
verification .  
6. Check Engine Oil:  
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1. Start the engine, and let it idle.  
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2. Gently pinch the PCV vacuum hose (A).  
Fig. 84: Identifying PCV Vacuum Hose  
Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.  
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3. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS with the vacuum hose pinched.  
Threshold  
Values  
Current conditions  
Unit Values Unit  
Signal  
AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.79  
Do the current condition(s) match the threshold?  
YES : The engine oil is OK. Go to step 7.  
NO : The engine oil is contaminated. REPLACE THE ENGINE OIL AND OIL FILTER , then do the  
repair verification .  
7. Replace Fuel Injectors:  
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1. REPLACE THE FUEL INJECTORS WITH KNOWN-GOOD INJECTORS .  
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2. Operate the vehicle under the same conditions where AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) was 0.79 or less.  
ENGINE SPEED  
VEHICLE SPEED  
REL TP SENSOR  
APP SENSOR  
Current conditions  
Values Unit  
Signal  
ENGINE SPEED  
VEHICLE SPEED  
REL TP SENSOR  
APP SENSOR  
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3. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS while driving.  
Threshold  
Values  
Current conditions  
Unit Values Unit  
Signal  
AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.79  
Do the current condition(s) match the threshold under the on-board snapshot conditions?  
YES : The fuel injectors are not the cause of the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. Go to step 8.  
NO : The fuel injectors were causing the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. REPLACE THE  
ORIGINAL INJECTORS , then do the repair verification .  
8. Replace A/F Sensor (Sensor 1)  
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1. REPLACE THE A/F SENSOR (SENSOR 1) WITH A KNOWN-GOOD SENSOR .  
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2. Operate the vehicle under the same conditions where AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) was 0.79 or less.  
ENGINE SPEED  
VEHICLE SPEED  
REL TP SENSOR  
APP SENSOR  
Current conditions  
Signal  
Values  
Unit  
ENGINE SPEED  
VEHICLE SPEED  
REL TP SENSOR  
APP SENSOR  
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3. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS while driving.  
Threshold  
Values  
Current conditions  
Unit Values Unit  
Signal  
AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.79  
Do the current condition(s) match the threshold under the on-board snapshot conditions?  
YES : The A/F sensor (Sensor 1) is not the cause of the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. Go to step  
9.  
NO : The A/F sensor (Sensor 1) was causing the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. REPLACE THE  
ORIGINAL A/F SENSOR (SENSOR 1) , then do the repair verification .  
9. Replace Fuel:  
NOTE:  
There is an increased likelihood of a fuel related issue if the misfire  
appeared shortly after refueling. The MIL DIST (MIL Distance) value in the  
DATA LIST in combination with the fuel level may help you make this  
determination.  
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1. Remove the fuel tank unit and then drain and refill the fuel tank with known-good fuel.  
2. Operate the vehicle under the same conditions where AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) was 0.79 or less.  
ENGINE SPEED  
VEHICLE SPEED  
REL TP SENSOR  
APP SENSOR  
Current conditions  
Signal  
Values  
Unit  
ENGINE SPEED  
VEHICLE SPEED  
REL TP SENSOR  
APP SENSOR  
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3. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS while driving.  
Threshold  
Values  
Current conditions  
Unit Values Unit  
Signal  
AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.79  
Do the current condition(s) match the threshold under the on-board snapshot conditions?  
YES : The fuel is not the cause of the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. Substitute a known-good  
PCM See PCM REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION or PCM UPDATE , then do the repair  
verification .  
NO : The fuel was causing the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. Do the repair confirm procedure  
See HOW TO TROUBLESHOOT THE A/T SYSTEM or HOW TO TROUBLESHOOT THE  
FUEL AND EMISSIONS SYSTEMS .  
REPAIR VERIFICATION  
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1. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).  
2. RESET THE PCM WITH THE HDS .  
3. DO THE PCM IDLE LEARN PROCEDURE .  
4. Start the engine. Hold the engine speed at 3, 000 rpm without load (in P or N) until the radiator fan  
comes on, then let it idle.  
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5. Operate the vehicle under the same conditions where AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) was 0.79 or less.  
ENGINE SPEED  
VEHICLE SPEED  
REL TP SENSOR  
APP SENSOR  
Current conditions  
Signal  
Values  
Unit  
ENGINE SPEED  
VEHICLE SPEED  
REL TP SENSOR  
APP SENSOR  
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6. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS while driving.  
Threshold  
Values  
Current conditions  
Unit Values Unit  
Signal  
AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.79  
Do the current condition(s) match the threshold under the on-board snapshot conditions?  
YES : AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is too low. Go to step 3.  
NO : AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is OK. Troubleshooting is complete.  
DTC P0201: NO. 1 CYLINDER INJECTOR CIRCUIT MALFUNCTION; DTC  
P0202: NO. 2 CYLINDER INJECTOR CIRCUIT MALFUNCTION; DTC P0203:  
NO. 3 CYLINDER INJECTOR CIRCUIT MALFUNCTION; DTC P0204: NO. 4  
CYLINDER INJECTOR CIRCUIT MALFUNCTION  
Fig. 85: DTC Troubleshooting Flow Chart (P0201, P0202, P0203, P0204)  
Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.  
NOTE:  
Before you troubleshoot, record all freeze data and any on-board snapshot, and